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silent spring

NYC high school soccer caught in controversy over which season to schedule girls

In the New York City public schools, the boys’ soccer season is in the fall, and the girls play in the spring. It’s been that way for 28 years. There’s not enough fields, not enough coaches, not enough referees, not enough time to have them both in the same season. Or at least that’s what a lot of people think.

Three female soccer players think otherwise, and with the help of the New York Civil Liberties Union, they threatened to sue the NYC Department of Education, using Title IX and charging that they were being discriminated against. The female student athletes allege that by having to play in the spring, their competition was limited to their own league (because the rest of the state played in the fall). Their spring club soccer commitments interfered with the high school season, and college recruiters were getting a better look at the teams playing in the fall–all issues the boys (and indeed most girls throughout the state) did not have to deal with during their fall season. All of this was noted previously in several sports, in 2006, in a report by the city’s elected public advocate comparing boys and girls sports in the city’s PSAL leagues.

To avoid being sued, the DOE agreed this week to move the girls’ soccer season to the fall beginning in August and through at least 2011. End of story? Not for everyone…

If you read this news story from the New York Times about the agreement, you’d think the occasion was a rosy one for all involved.

Unfortunately, It reads a lot like the one-sided account that the NYCLU gave in their appropriately self-promoting press release. “The change,” the group argues, “gives girls’ soccer players opportunities for athletic development and college recruitment already provided to boys, who play soccer in the fall along with the city’s private schools and the public schools in all of the state’s other counties.”

As part of the agreement, the DOE has to provide “substantially equal” opportunities for boys’ and girls’ soccer and “make reasonable efforts to maintain the same number of games girls’ teams play following the switch.” It all seems pretty straightforward before you consider what those requirements (beyond the vague language) entail, and that’s where if and when the Daily Show picks up on the story, it will be called ‘ClusterF*@k to the Soccer Field.’

There were, after all, a few uniquely New York reasons why the soccer seasons were laid out as they were for 28 years. Those were reported as far back as April of this year when the issue was gaining momentum. These new (and really age-old) problems are laid out in a petition that is making the rounds among parents and coaches. It sums up the so far largely unreported issues (unless last April counts-but in the last week there’s barely been a mention), outlining the ramifications that would ensue if the girls’ spring season was added to the fall program…

  • Both the girls’ and the boys’ soccer season will have to be cut from approximately 16 games down to a possible 8 games.
  • There will be a need for an additional 32 coaches to replace the 32 cross-over coaches as these people coach both a boys’ and a girls’ team.
  • There will also be limited field space to accommodate this new schedule. Since the scheduling is currently extremely overloaded this new structure will produce a severe lack of playing fields.
  • Presently, there is a serious referee shortage and this new arrangement will produce not a shortage but a referee placement crisis.
  • Cancellations of entire team programs are a very real possibility due to the fact that there will be a shortage of coaches as stated above.
  • Many [multi-sport] athletes will have to make a choice as to which fall sport they would like to participate in. Therefore, it leaves many teams below the mandatory participation requirement.

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Girls’ soccer in NYC includes 80 high-school teams with 1,756 players; the boys, 107 teams with 2,417 players. The 28-year agreement’s biggest solve was that it allowed for athletic fields to be available for the various fall and spring sports–football, baseball, softball, track and field, field hockey, boys and girls soccer–in a city starved of athletic field space and overflowing with student athletes. Changing the girls to the fall, along with football and boys soccer would add 600 more games to an already packed schedule. Three young ladies will no longer be forced with difficult decisions, the opposition states. But in saving them, the sport at the high school level, and many of the plaintiffs’ teammates, now have new and difficult decisions added to their plates. Ones that could destroy the hard work spent building the girls’ game to where it is today.

Many of girls’ high school coaches do not want to move the schedule to the fall–saying just like the NYCLU that they want the best for the girls. Some are trying to organize. Forest Hills High School Boy’s and Girl’s Soccer Coach Bob Sprance has been one of the louder voices and is looking for a way to halt the agreement until it can be properly litigated, properly determined if indeed Title IX is being broken. He is not so sure. And due to the recent agreement, that won’t happen unless someone makes it happen Over the phone Sprance emotionally rattled off the reasons why this agreement in his mind, is “a disgrace.”

“The first girl didn’t want spring high school soccer to conflict with Olympic soccer,” Sprance said. “Um, you go try out, and if you make it, you go to the Olympics. I didn’t know PSAL girls soccer in the spring is more important than Olympic soccer. Now maybe I am wrong. The second issue is college scholarships, that the girls are discriminated against because of the lack of exposure in the spring. I would like anyone to come up with the names of the girls who lost scholarships because the season is in the spring. Any girl. If recruiters are interested they know about the players before their senior season and most likely through club soccer not high school soccer. I’ve already had one local college coach tell me the change will negatively impact is his ability to recruit girls. And then the last girl complained about playing club ball and girls PSAL soccer. That it was too much. Well, that is the total issue. The girls’ coach at Beacon High School, Kevin Jacobs, whose name you will not see in the press or the action but who is behind this whole thing, does not want to compete against club soccer. He wants to win the PSAL season with his team. That and the wishes a few girls is what we are talking about here. There is no mandate for change from girls and their families. This is not about Title IX; this is about winning.”

Sprance and indeed many of girls’ PSAL soccer coaches, whether they support the agreement or not, now fear the sport will tailspin into complete disarray. On each issue the NYCLU brings, Sprance and his side have a reason why the change would in fact be harmful to the great majority of female soccer players. Only a few girls get scholarships, he said, and many more girls play a fall sport and would be forced to choose than there are girls playing club soccer. And then there’s the coaching issue.

“Seventy teams are being moved into the fall with this agreement,” Sprance said. “And here’s the result: you will lose 8 programs. I guarantee it. And the reason why: 39 cross-over coaches. We need 39 new coaches by the fall. Coaches often coach both girls and boys soccer and some others coach volleyball in the fall. 39 of us will have to give up our teams. So you need 39 new coaches. If you don’t get them what happens?

“And what if there are girls who have religious beliefs on weekends,” Sprance continued. “Next fall games will have to be played on weekends to accommodate the additional 600 games needed to be squeezed onto already limited field space. What if girls have to work on weekends? And what about the girls that now have to choose between soccer, volleyball, and track in the fall? And I would say 33 percent of girls’ soccer players are on track teams in the fall and/or volleyball. So now do we have a reverse TItle IX on them because they are forced to do that?”

An average NYC high school soccer league game for the best boys team, fall 2005. Grass in the foreground.

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“The fact is,” Sprance said, finally taking a breath. “Programs will be dissolved. Nobody lost any scholarships. Fields are overloaded. Referees have already come out and called it unsafe because we’ll only have one ref per game if we can find a ref at all. And now instead of three girls having to choose we have hundreds having to choose. It’s a big lie. How did three girls get the Department of Education to totally bend over and give everything they want without any type of fight? Thousands of kids between all the affected sports are being negatively impacted because of three girls from Manhattan. This is about the rich and powerful using their connections to get what they want in spite of everything and everyone else. You can quote me on that.”

Corporations settle problems with individuals all the time to avoid costly litigation and public scrutiny, and not always because they did something wrong. Is that what’s happening here? Is corporate council bending to the will of a few disgruntled players? Is it a few rich kids winning over hundreds of poor kids, the old two-tier system in which rich kids and private schools reign? Or is this truly a case of inequality in which the opposition simply does not want to deal with the logistical headaches equality forces upon them?

The NYCLU spoke to many coaches before moving forward with their cause and heard plenty of sentiments similar to those of Coach Spruce. But ultimately the group decided that the reasons given to maintain the status quo are simply crutches that must be dealt with in order to guarantee equality. Go find coaches and referees and field space, the NYCLU essentially says. While some girls might have to choose between sports in the fall, others who might have wanted to play another sport in the spring now can.

And yet all of that is besides the point, according to the NYCLU’s lead council Galen Sherwin. “Our nation is built on the notion that people have to be treated equally, so ultimately fairness is the most important value.” As for all the collateral issues? “It’s not gonna happen,” Sherwin says. “That all of these horrible things will come to pass. This is New York City. They will be able to find enough referees and coaches. It’s not like this is a particularly tough job market now. They will be able to find people. There may be a transition period, there may be some growing pains, but ultimately, we’re confident programs won’t suffer. And that was one of our first priorities.”

And for the girl who was playing a fall sport, say volleyball or field hockey, which has its own scholarship possibilities yet less club opportunities? “Maybe she can play Lacrosse now,” Sherwin says. “There are going to be a couple of girls who are not going to be able to play their first-choice sports in the switch. There will be an adjustment.”

As stated in the agreement, that adjustment requires “reasonable efforts” to be made in protecting the scheduling of games and potentially the cutting of programs. This protection is the top priority to which Sherwin speaks, and she promises the NYCLU will be watching. And that is where come August this could get dicey without a lot of hard work from multiple city parks departments, schools, and organizations that aren’t exactly known for quick change. A lot needs to happen before the fall.

There is national precedence for a season switch like this. Neighboring states Connecticut and New Jersey, along with a few other states, have enacted rules that stipulate that you cannot schedule both school and club programs for the same sport in the same season. And nearly identical situations arose in Westchester County and Mamaroneck, New York, as well as in Michigan. Both went through litigation and both athletic associations lost and were forced to move girls into the fall season. Rip Fisher, president of Westchester Youth Soccer League, went through nearly the exact same circumstances as those happening in NYC, as a club soccer coach and parent of a female soccer player. High School girls’ programs in their county were playing in the spring–dating back not coincidentally to the time Title IX was enacted and girls sports exploded. There was not enough field space for booming girls soccer in the 1970’s, so the girls’ soccer season was moved to the spring. Then about 5 years ago, a few girls filed suit against their school districts, alleging that they were being discriminated against for nearly the exact same reasons as the girls in NYC. The only real difference was that their issue with missing fall went beyond games with teams from outside their own league. The New York State soccer tournament, which was and still is held in the fall for high school boys and girls, was not open to them. (This technicality doesn’t effect the NYC issue because neither the boys or girls compete in the state tournament for issues relating among other things to travel and money. ((some want that changed too))).

In Westchester’s case, one of the three girls suing their respective school boards dropped the lawsuit due to pressure from peers and teammates who opposed it. But the others went through with it and won. “It affected a lot of kids who were caught in the transition,” Fisher says, “including my youngest daughter, who was a 12th grader on the varsity soccer team and field hockey team. They put those two sports in the same season. So she had to drop a sport. There were a few kids like that in every town. She could now play a spring sport, but its pretty hard when you’ve been playing field hockey for six years to just go show up and become a lacrosse star. If you were caught in the transition, you were a casualty.”

But on the other side you had tears as well. “There was a young lady on one of the soccer teams I coached,” Fisher says. “Who was the captain of the Scarsdale high school varsity team and her club team. It so happened in one Saturday she had a high sectional championship game and her club team had a state cup semi-final, 200 miles apart. The girl was being put in an impossible situation where she was going to leave high and dry 18 teammates and her coach. And the boys were never put in that position. There weren’t that many situations like that and you know what there aren’t many murders, but it doesn’t mean one murder is right. Even my daughter, who was a casualty of the transition understood.”

Five years now past, it’s business as usual in Westchester. Girls coming up now know which sports they can do in each season. They know how to plan their lives because the dust is settled. “It’s a non-issue now, and female student athletes get to compete in all the state’s tournaments.” Fisher said. “But in New York, what with the most expensive real estate in the country, there’s not a lot of open space. In Westchester, in suburban communities, you have fewer soccer players and more open space. We were able to accommodate it much more easily and quickly. You have a logistical problem in New York. And if have to cut programs on the boys or girls side to accommodate [the switch], I don’t think that is helping kids. It would be a shame. It may be making it fair, but it’s hurting a lot of kids as well as helping them.”

Chances are, there will be a lot more girls in New York like Fisher’s daughter, forced to choose between sports, and according to Will Cushing, the soccer coach at Riverdale/Kingsbridge Academy in the north Bronx, much fewer in the two-team captain’s predicament. “It’s this Title IX issue that I think is so fascinating about this,” Cushing says. “It’s completely girls sports and girls opportunities that would be hindered by this switch and not helped. That’s why this whole thing is blowing my mind. The bottom line is the NYCLU obviously has no idea about soccer in New York City. For the great majority of teams and coaches who do not have their own fields you are dependent on the parks department and permits and it becomes a whole process to actually secure field space, let alone goals. You can only imagine how bad it is with school budgets. Actually, physically getting goals together at various parks department fields is not easy. Two seasons in the fall is completely unmanageable–almost impossible–and we’re going to find that out this fall if this all actually happens.”

With all due respect to Michigan and Westchester, for many in the New York soccer community, it’s quite simply a case of, well, that isn’t New York. What’s fair in Michigan, the idea goes, isn’t necessarily fair here. Also not New York: big time soccer. Though it may be a surprise and the city does produce some great teams and great players, New York City is not a hotbed of soccer where every kid is playing for a club. “This is not a big issue,” Cushing says. “This is a few girls and what is an inconvenient spring season or them. If you know the reality of NYC soccer, it’s only a tiny fraction of girls who are playing elite club soccer and an even smaller fraction of girls being recruited.

“I’m reading this as an insider, someone who actually knows about NYC soccer, and my eyes are falling out of my head. The public reading this thinks, ‘oh all these girls have to deal with this terrible decision.’ The reality is NYC is not a powerhouse area for girls soccer or boys soccer–we don’t even compete at the state level, for girls or boys. It’s a false premise to suggest that a lot of girls are being hindered here. For the majority of PSAL soccer girls this isn’t an issue at all, but it will now when all of these logistical nightmares make it harder for them to enjoy the game and develop their skills. The fact that this got framed to the NYCLU as a Title IX issue, I think, is very sad. Because I don’t think at the heart of this, that is what this is all about.”

At the heart of this matter is Lucia Stern, the mother of one of the would-be plaintiffs, and the person who first took the grievance to the NYCLU.  The public relations and advertising professional, educational activist (with a few other successes under her belt), and longtime soccer mom realized years ago through her daughter’s club team, which included girls from private and public schools around the area, that everybody was playing high school soccer in the fall besides New York City. Spending upwards of 200 hours researching the situation–how other cities and counties dealt with the matter; how the parks department gives out field space, the public advocacy report, the office of civil rights–it became clear to her and her daughter that this was about much more than their hectic spring schedule.

Stern’s daughter was distraught over the past weekend due to the dissenting voices she heard from within her own team since the announcement of the agreement. Those girls were by and large not competitive soccer players and girls who now had new fall conflicts to decide between. The family was prepared for some negative reaction and even realized it would likely mean the loss of their own beloved coach, Alex Marr (who coaches a boys team as well), but they believe their cause is still bigger than that and challenge anyone to find alterior motives in their campaign.

“I actually do think many of the coaches who are objecting have the same kind of conflicts [as Marr],” she says. “They love both their teams. I don’t think it’s just the money or anything like that. I think we may have presented it too much that way. It will be a short term adjustment that will make a lot of people uncomfortable.”

But the uporoar, she says, speaks to a different point. The hurdles to change need not be so high. Like the NYCLU, she questions the sky-is-falling argument over logistics, but instead of appearing to brush it off as the NYCLU has, she traces the coaches’ otherwise fair concerns to the doorstep of the PSAL and the city. “An argument against this change,” she says, “is an argument against any change at all… It is possible to manage change, and I think that the PSAL lacks leadership. There is no leadership at all that is interested in managing change. I think they hope it will be such a failure that in three years they can take it back, or even before then. The elephant in the room that no one wants to acknowledge is that the city is giving private schools priority over the use of field space. These are not the norms of use in public space in big cities. It’s not transparent how the field permits are giving out and who gets them. I filed a formal request more than a year ago to find out about that, and you know what they sent me? They sent me the record for Staten Island, where there is not a single school that doesn’t have a field. They are building new field space on Randall’s Island, and even that was initially attempted through a partnership with private schools.”

No city is free from the squeeky wheels of beuracracy, so what if the worst case scenario comes to pass? What if coaches are proven right that programs and seasons will be cut? “That could be the substance of an OCR (Office of Civil Rights) lawsuit. They are not supposed to [cut programs or games]. The PSAL could have prepared for this instead of fighting it. They could have begun trying to manage the change, and that is what I mean about the leadership. They want this to fail. They want their to be an outcry. And they want to be able to say there’s nothing we can do.”

If finding field space is hard, making everyone happier is beyond impossible. One alternative suggested would have the boys and girls switch seasons, either every year, every five years, or every decade. Another option, this one championed by Coach Sprance, is to offer an elite 10-team fall season for the girls, which would afford for those girls looking to play in the fall that opportunity while also allowing other girls to continue play in the spring (think of this new spring season as a recreational league) and some semblance of normality to field and coaching schedules. Neither of these options have reached beyond passing conversation.

He said, she said, impending disarray, no judge to rule. What will come this fall? The only thing everyone can agree on is the need for more fields in New York City. And maybe the same week the nation turns a corner to right the wrongs of the past, with the hope to once and for all set the fairest course toward justice with new leadership, maybe this city can begin to do the same on the soccer fields. it wouldn’t be the first time soccer created real change.

John Savage
on Jan 22nd, 2009 - 1:11pm

Some interesting facts about the law suit that moved soceer to the fall in NY in2004.
1 Several varsity players at Mamaroneck on soceer and field hockey were mad that they were made to choose between two sports that they loved and had played their whole high school career.
2. The premise of the lawsuit dealt with the fact that spring players didn’t have the opportunity to play for state championships. This was misleading because the player in the Pelham school district who sued for the right to play for a state championship in the fall , told the district they didn’t have to make the change in 2004. Fact not readily available was she tore her ACL and wasn’t able to play that fall. Well what about her teammates who didn’t get the opportunity to play for a state championship that year. Sounds self serving to me.
3. Lastly the problem occured because girls were over booked with school teams, travel teams and ODP competing for their time. Something had to give. Instead of having the girls chose, the soceer people decided they could get more of the girls in the spring if soceer was moved to the fall. Money maker for travel and ODP coaches!!!!!!!

sharmon
on Jan 22nd, 2009 - 9:15pm

Very intriguing situation, and excellent communication of it. I find myself a bit torn between both sides, but leaning towards them staying in spring. I hear the plight of the elite players, but assuming it goes through though, I’d hope that the average high school player wouldn’t be losing out in the end. My high school situation (IL) was fall boys and spring girls. My school did share coaches and fields. One thing I enjoyed about opposite seasons was the chance to be in the stands for most of the girls games, something I wouldn’t have been able to do had they been in the fall as well.

And my parting question (one that I don’t think I saw addressed in the story) is why the girls club season can’t move to the fall?

Many thanks as I enjoyed the read!

Sean
on Jan 23rd, 2009 - 3:10pm

Sharmon - I believe the girls club season is in the fall. In most states club soccer is year round anyways and players are routinely asked by club coaches to skip high school soccer. Club is where the importance is for elite players. High school is where you play to have fun.

Lucia Stern
on Jan 24th, 2009 - 2:37pm

Girls’ club season is in the spring. Club season is in the spring, and it is a regional phenomenon (that is why it cannot move to the fall). State Cup for Club soccer is in spring. NYC soccer clubs are members of soccer leagues, and those leagues organize play primarily in spring, though because of the situation of NYC public school girls who so far have not played in school in the fall, some club play has been scheduled in fall for a handful of teams. Boys do not play in a club league in the fall, but they usually hold a club mini-season in November after school soccer ends.

The estimates for the numbers of club players in NYC school soccer is quite frankly wrong–there are club players on many school teams, although not many play in premier leagues where they will be in showcases for college. Those club players, whether or not they are aware of it, are at risk of overuse injuries if they play school and club in the same season.

The threat that programs may be cut is a bit alarmist. They can’t be cut for lack of a coach–there are plenty of coaches, but the system must anticipate whether there are enough teacher-coaches in enough time to find outside coaches if there are not. That means managing the change, not just letting the chips fall where they may. The other reason programs could be cut is not enough players, but teams could pick up players from spring track, lacrosse, and softball–girls who now can’t play soccer because of the season conflict.

Right now there is not a single outdoor team sport for girls in the fall. Scheduling soccer in fall will rectify that.

Alexandria
on Jan 27th, 2009 - 2:56pm

How hard would it be to hire some more coaches,secondly do like they do in georgia and have the girls games before the boys or have the girls on tuesday and the boys on thursday. this whole argument of overcrowding is ridiculous if they really wanted to do it they would find away.

Andrew
on Jan 28th, 2009 - 7:50am

Girls Soccer in Michigan is still played in the SPRING with Boys in the FALL. The lawsuit mentioned didn’t change the Girls soccer season.

Jason
on Jan 29th, 2009 - 12:23pm

Something lost in this is that it was proposed that the boys and girls switch off between the fall and the spring seasons every year to alleviate the field and reff issues. But the DOE was not willing to do that. That seemed like an acceptable compromise but aparently not for the DOE if the Boys had to move.

Ted
on Jan 30th, 2009 - 3:37am

In Oklahoma, high school soccer is played in the fall for both girls and boys. Given all the open land, fields have never been an issue, and most schools field both girls and boys teams, making scheduling double headers easy and reusing refs common. Club soccer is year round, but the big stuff is, of course, in the spring. Oklahoma has none of the issues New York does (about 100 high schools in the whole state have teams, maybe a little more, and the state only has three divisions for soccer, 4A, 5A and 6A.

Sounds like the spring may be the best option. I personally don’t believe the recruiting argument against it. The club argument is a good one, but there will always be a conflict no matter when the season is.

It just seems logistically impossible to make it work the way they think it will.

Bob Sprance
on Jan 30th, 2009 - 12:17pm

We have to hear from the non-club players. The decision was made for 3 selfish, politcally connected, elite club players with no regard for the the other 1600 non-club players. There are about 100 club players. Forget the other problems(field, ref, etc.) what about the rights of the majority (1600 vs 100)?????? There is a solution , a 10 team 18 game fall season & they can also play in the spring.Having their season cancelled is not an alarmist view, it will become a reality in the fall, there are too many obstacles to overcome for the Fall 09 girls soccer teams. It is not a Title IX issue, that is a smoke screen, it is about 3 players who do not care about their fellow players & a coach who just wants to better his chances to win. 1600 girls are being forced to decide whether to work, be with their families, religious practices or play soccer on the weekends in the fall. Also they will have to choose between soccer, cross country track or volleyball. Is Title IX really working for the 1600 ” non elite” girls soccer players?????????? As long as the club & the elite players are satisfied, the forgotten 1600 will pay the price.

Austin
on Jan 30th, 2009 - 3:50pm

I will attest to the difficulties of finding fields in New York City. I played for a high school which is in New Rochelle, a town over from Mamaroneck, that played in the New York City CHSAA (Catholic High School Athletic Association). The above picture from the 2005 match brings back memories for me because of the condition of the field, clouds of dust rising from the dirt, and grass only to be found on the periphery of the field. Adam i suggest you go to Ferry Point Park in the north Bronx right beside the Whitestone bridge to witness some games played in these conditions. Pitches all over the city are in this kind of shape, and they are the only available places to play games. I remember on countless occasions that a team from Manhattan would come up to the Bronx for one of their home games due to scheduling conflicts. The fact that there is a demand for the spaces to be used twice as much at the same time is really an impossible problem for New York City.

Andrea
on Jan 31st, 2009 - 3:18pm

I am tired of hearing from adults who have no concern for us as human beings. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU for playing god with our athletic present and future. Anybody who plays in the PSAL can tell you that most of us are playing this sport and others that we play for the 1st time. We aren’t playing for clubs. I didn’t know this league was run for only the very talented.

We just want to have fun while we still in high school. Now I can’t play Volleyball or Soccer in the fall. My friend has to choose between Track and Soccer. How are my rights being protected? How come somethin like 500 kids are gonna lose a sport because of this? Pleaaze don’t tell me I can play softball. Most of us don’t want to or we would be already!

Shame on all you selfish people who made this happen, you are all disgraceful! I went to the NYCLU website to complain and ask for their help since my rights are being violated, but there’s no link to e-mail them. Unreal!

Andrea
on Feb 1st, 2009 - 7:12am

I am a non-club player in the PSAL. I already play a fall sport as do several of my teammates. I responded to the post above about how unfair this all is to the majority of girls in the PSAL, but my post was taken down without so much as an e-mail to me as to why.. Sounds to me like someone is trying to silence my friends and I. Please someone help us.

Andrea
on Feb 3rd, 2009 - 5:31pm

In response to comments further above. “Threats of programs being cut is alarmist”….

Today in the NY Daily News I read the story of how Leon Goldstein, a successful program that just went to two consecutive PSAL semifinals is in grave danger of falling apart due to the change in season. Plenty of stuff in the story about girls crying over the decision.

Also last time I looked there are TWO team sports for females in the spring Cross Country and Golf. Not only didn’t the adults listen to the majority of kids, but they are publishing incorrect information too. Again someone please help us!

Melvin Band
on Jul 27th, 2010 - 8:10pm

fFrst of all, if you google ” number of states that have girls high school soccer in thespring ,you will find the answer to be 21! Gee I wonder how they cope with getting scholarships especially high school sports crazy California where the girls and boys in the south play in the winter while the boys in the north play in the fall, and the girls in the north play in the spring. So much for state championships. Now as far as Marmaronect, the fact is there wer only 20 girls teams out of 500 in the NYSHSaAA association that played in th espring so naturally the spring girls wer shut out of the opportunity for a state championship. NYC does not belong to the NYSHSAA which means the 80 teams don’t go beyond a city championship even if they were to play in the fall,just as the fall boys soccer doesn’t go to a state championship. And finally on this ppoint, the Michigan girls who played just in the spring had this changed by Judge Ensler who actually split the girls in two, half to play in the spring and half in the fall.

Melvin Band
on Jul 28th, 2010 - 3:43am

Here is just one example of what happens when there is a lack of field space. My alma mater, Brooklyn Technical HS, which has but one field, has to accommodate four teams -fooball varsity and JV, girls and boys varsity soccer. Even though there were 28 days open for practice, the football teams were alloted 21 days, whille both soccer teams received just seven together thanks to the principal who at one time was the head of the math dpartment even though he did not have a master’’s degree in math. To make matters worse, the girl’s soccer coach filed a complaint with the Office of Civil Rights(OCR). On the last day of school the coach received a “U” rating. He was also fired , BUT as yet wasn’t officially notified by the principal. Check out bths.edu. He was told by his union, the UFT, that he will have to wait until the fall to get justice. I say,” Jusice delayed, is justice denied!”

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